Here are some other people on Technology: http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~kite/doc/von_Neumann_1955.pdf

Bertrand Russel also has very good writing on this: http://bactra.org/Icarus.html

Alan Kay , he is one of my Heros regarding Computers, but he doesn't dare to go beyond his own culture ( how could he?). He is aas far as one could get from a technical/industrial perspective regarding progressive thinking related to technology.

Yet you won'T seem him debate: What is progress? What is technology? - outside of the western civilization narrative, like say for example from an indigenous perspective like mentioned here: https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/45449501-sand-talk

A different perspective being it either from indigenous people or the eastern tradition, like daoism - wuwei principle seem alien to him ( as far as I can tell).

Thus he would always look for the right kind of progress, the right kind of technology. Non technology or non progress are non existent in his worldview.

Alan Watts explains it here :

"we're in a situation like that's where our progress is cancer"

Kartik Agram started a similar thread about the perspective on techology, in there I reference a few other resources that I feel are related to the subject, including 2 from alan kay here is the link to that thread: https://futureofcoding.slack.com/archives/C5U3SEW6A/p1631804449070900

"I really can't converse very well at my age because I've lost my patience" 🙁

Lots of things could be said about this interview, I'll try one more thing: Alan implies many things things like the superiority of writing over oral information exchange or even dialog. There actually people, kind of reinventing dialog. They created a whole bunch of language to talk about certain aspects about the phenomenon of dialog in communication. Really interesting stuff ( cognitive science, If you are interested in that, which I highly recommend, you may search for: John verveake awakening from the meaning crisis)