Duncan Cragg
07/02/2023, 10:47 PMibdknox
07/02/2023, 11:36 PMNick Main
07/03/2023, 12:26 AMAndrew F
07/03/2023, 4:27 AMKonrad Hinsen
07/03/2023, 5:48 AMDuncan Cragg
07/03/2023, 8:19 AMAs someone who will never strap a computing device onto my body, for philosophical and physical accessibility reasons, I find the immersive computing future to be dystopian.I get this completely - but it's a whole nuther thread really. For the sake of this discussion, imagine a non-intrusive AR tech that's fully under your control, etc.
Less stridently, but I'm also very skeptical of AR as a primary computer interface. At minimum it must remain possible to fully utilize computers without it.Of course, but then outside of your Dynamicland projectors room, you'll still need to do stuff also. Do you think DL is better than AR? Are you skeptical of DL as a primary computer interface?
AR doesn't have to be close-to-the-body devices. Using transparent screens, small projectors, etc., digital information can be added to the physical world in a more natural way, i.e. closer to what our senses handle best.So a kinda halfway between an AR headset and DL? Interesting. Is there anything out there that works like this?
Dynamicland is a research project. As such, it starts by exploring extremes. Once you understand what you gain and loose from those extremes, you can explore compromises. Which in the case of Dynamicland includes re-integrating tradtional computing technology.That's exactly how I'm now seeing my own work. It's very freeing. I recommend it to all FoCcers!
Ivan Reese
Dynamicland could be done better with Augmented Reality specs.…with:
All that frayable, water- and fire-damageable stuff. No version control? No backups? Those little test tube doodads will fall apart after a few months.You're suggesting we use AR specs (or whatever) instead of projectors — that covers the output side of the system. So what do we use instead of physical materials for input side?
irvin
07/03/2023, 3:00 PMSo what do we use instead of physical materials for input side?I think with good hand recognition you could simulate physical objects digitally that would be needed for input (e.g. pieces of paper, buttons, knobs). The main thing missing would be tactile feedback.
Ivan Reese
Duncan Cragg
07/03/2023, 3:34 PMChris Knott
07/03/2023, 4:42 PMDuncan Cragg
07/03/2023, 6:15 PMcurious_reader
07/05/2023, 10:11 AMNaveen Michaud-Agrawal
07/06/2023, 7:03 PMDuncan Cragg
07/06/2023, 8:12 PMcurious_reader
07/08/2023, 7:07 AMDuncan Cragg
07/08/2023, 8:24 AMcurious_reader
07/08/2023, 8:29 AMDuncan Cragg
07/08/2023, 8:46 AMSteve Dekorte
07/09/2023, 10:46 PMDuncan Cragg
07/10/2023, 8:16 AMshalabh
07/10/2023, 3:32 PMDuncan Cragg
07/10/2023, 5:04 PMIvan Reese
shalabh
07/10/2023, 7:53 PMF = ma
or line graphs 📈 our understanding is based on the internalized medium of writing or graphs. Computers screens enabled dynamic interactive media (however we still often use it to copy the old static media). If you read the above essay or listen to Victor this idea of “medium first” keeps coming up way before the “computer” term is used: Personal Dynamic Media, The Humane Representation of Thought. Victor says “we think with our whole body”. So I believe what DL is seeking is medium that is both physically tangible as well as dynamic. Note I am not arguing for or against - mainly reporting what I believe is a key perspective in this case. Yes, computers are involved, but the idea is to get to a medium that enables new forms of thought and understanding.Steve Dekorte
07/10/2023, 9:09 PMIvan Reese
shalabh
07/11/2023, 12:36 AMIvan Reese
Duncan Cragg
07/11/2023, 6:36 AMAlex McLean
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