Hi there, I am Etienne. I have been working on Jig (https://www.jigdev.com) which is a canvas version of Observable notebooks. This hasn’t really had the success I hoped for so far. I think this is due to javascript being too hard for most people. I am joining here to see what people are working on in that space. From France

hi! @Paul Shen https://natto.dev/ and @Tom Larkworthy https://webcode.run/ come to mind

By watching the video of Jig, I think the use cases are also similar to https://instadeq.com from @Mariano Guerra. The difference is that instadeq is more focused in node-code

👋Hi @Etienne de Boursetty, I know jigdev! I too am trying to build a business around observable. I too struggle a bit with traction, but things are beginning to pick up within the IoT space. I am targeting developers, so the JS bit is ok but some people are put off with writing prod code on a dataviz platform. However, in the case of IoT they actually want dataviz and they are less picky about IDEs so it kinda makes more sense as it turns out. I have been doing a video series on building a smart farm which is opening doors. Happy to chat offline if you want (I am based in Berlin)

Hi guys, thanks for your replies. I had definitely followed natto and webcode. I didn’t know about instadeq, but that looks interesting. The people I have interested with jig are mostly startup people who have a hard time putting together their BI metrics. They’re mostly fine until they meet with investors who all want cohort charts. Cohort retention analysis is very difficult to do in a spreadsheet and virtually impossible in sql alone (it’s no wonder observable showcased the cohort charts in their templates - though the templates needs the data in a certain way that is difficult to put together).

I once wrote windowed DAU analysis in SQL and yeah, wow! , it's much harder than it looks, let alone cohort analysis!

use case is similar to that of node-red

yeah, actually interest in webcode comes from dissatisfaction with the expressivity of node-red. node-red is primarily low-code node and wires interface, but webcode is definitely a code based approach, a.k.a. aa yes-code platform (but without the BS of setting up local tools and an out-of-the-box SOTA development workflow). I think this will mean webcode/observable will be able to produce high quality user facing dashboards that would be quite tedious and difficult to produce with node-red.