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Orion Reed

06/21/2022, 2:12 PM
Does anyone know of FOC orgs (businesses and/or communities) that are run cooperatively/democratically? What are your thoughts on the intersection of democratic self-management and FOC projects? There’s often talk of “democratising” computing, and to me this often feels half-baked when the control is ultimately in private/undemocratic hands, even if the technology has emancipatory potential.
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Ivan Reese

06/21/2022, 2:16 PM
By "orgs" do you mean just businesses, or also communities (like this one)?
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Orion Reed

06/21/2022, 2:27 PM
Either! But I had businesses in mind. Edited the post to clarify
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Srini K

06/21/2022, 2:28 PM
Small Giants covers a lot of companies that are closer to this flavor, but none are FoC companies per say 🤔 https://www.amazon.com/Small-Giants-Companies-Instead-10th-Anniversary/dp/014310960X
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Konrad Hinsen

06/21/2022, 3:03 PM
There are small-scale open source projects about scientific software that are run more or less democratically, if you count only regular contributors as "citizens". NumPy (http://numpy.org/) comes to mind as an example. Larger projects invariably have a more oligarchic style, and none I am aware of make any attempt at integrating "mere" users into the decision making processes.
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Srini K

06/21/2022, 3:12 PM
I’m involved with a project within the Apache Software Foundation and it has a cooperative style https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html People can become a committer or PMC member through sustained contributions
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Daniel Krasner

06/21/2022, 7:03 PM
i think https://informal.systems/ is trying to do something along those lines
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