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shalabh
05/06/2019, 7:56 PMhttps://alarmingdevelopment.org/?p=1263 from @jonathoda
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Duncan Cragg
05/06/2019, 8:52 PMSurprised it took you so long, @jonathoda š
Duncan Cragg
05/06/2019, 8:53 PMSo at risk of sounding like a broken record, how about we make a loose cooperative of User Liberators via, or within, here - just those of us aligned on this one axis?
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ogadaki
05/07/2019, 5:52 AMI don't know how, but I am in!
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Duncan Cragg
05/07/2019, 1:25 PMnew channel just for us crazee liberators?
Duncan Cragg
05/07/2019, 1:27 PMor @jonathoda sets up a forum, cos he isn't keen on Slack.. or, he already has a ULF server on the Dark Web?
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jonathoda
05/07/2019, 2:02 PMWorking on it
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Garth Goldwater
05/08/2019, 11:37 PMI'm in
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shalabh
05/13/2019, 5:11 PMI'm very interested as well though not working on user liberation directly. It's possible programmer liberation might trickle down from user liberation first.
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Duncan Cragg
05/13/2019, 10:30 PM@stevekrouse,@Stefan, @yairchu, @Tudor Girba, @wolkenmachine, @Clemens, @Mariano Guerra, @Kartik Agaram, @Max Kreminski, @Ivan Reese, @ibdknox, @Tim Swast, @nicolaerusan, @Stephen Sugden, @Paul Sonnentag, @Dinesh, @Peter Abrahamsen, @Jacob Sandlund, @Abhinav, @Bosmon, @Scott Anderson, @Adam Marks .. you all voted in my poll (https://futureofcoding.slack.com/archives/C5T9GPWFL/p1545216276372200) that you're working on "Programming languages or environments for everyone" - will you become activists in the User Liberation Front? š
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Ivan Reese
05/13/2019, 10:31 PM
Nay ā different audience, different goals. But I do support the idea of "user liberation". I intend that anyone should be able to use the stuff I'm building, but most people wouldn't want or need to, since it solves a very particular problem having to do with communication media.
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Kartik Agaram
05/13/2019, 10:36 PM
The word āactivistā seems to require buying into a specific solution that you then go out to evangelize in the world. Iām still in the research phase along 3 fronts:
ā¢ Trying to come up with a solution.
ā¢ Tracking the solutions others come up with from similar goals.
ā¢ Figuring out the right ways to evangelize a solution once I have it.
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Duncan Cragg
05/13/2019, 10:47 PMme too, I'm just being provocative for the fun of it! š
Duncan Cragg
05/13/2019, 10:49 PMbut projects aimed at non-techies as well as techies won the poll, so it makes sense to see if we can create a greater focus around that
Duncan Cragg
05/13/2019, 10:49 PMshould I republish a similar poll with better wording?
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Tim Swast
05/14/2019, 12:54 AMI like it. User liberation definitely my motivation. It feels so much like being trapped if you have no means to make changes to the software you rely on.
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Mariano Guerra
05/14/2019, 7:47 AM
I'm a hipster user liberation front member
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05/14/2019, 7:47 AM
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Max Kreminski
05/14/2019, 7:16 PMdefinitely in favor of user liberation here! Iāve also been using the related label āpersonal computationā (as in https://twitter.com/maxkreminski/status/1121174498533732352) for some of my own work in this direction
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wtaysom
05/15/2019, 2:00 AM@jonathoda having seen the phrase in context, "user liberation front" as a term works.
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