Thought you all might appreciate this. From Progra...
# thinking-togetherd
Deklan Webster
07/24/2019, 10:10 PMThought you all might appreciate this. From Programming Paradigms for Dummies: What Every Programmer Should Know by Peter Van Roy
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Duncan Cragg
07/24/2019, 10:32 PMWhere would Excel be on this?
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Deklan Webster
07/24/2019, 11:08 PMit's in there if you look. Nonmonotonic dataflow programming 😄
Deklan Webster
07/24/2019, 11:11 PMI wonder where APL, J, Joy are in here. (I don't know much about these languages)
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Garth Goldwater
07/25/2019, 5:54 PMAPL/J are pretty much the same paradigm and I'm not sure how I'd map them on there
Garth Goldwater
07/25/2019, 5:54 PMJoy would start with Forth and you could kind of put forth on both sides of the axes
Garth Goldwater
07/25/2019, 5:55 PMso I think you've found the leaks in the abstraction!
Garth Goldwater
07/25/2019, 5:55 PMyou could argue that APL comes out of functional programming but that wouldn't really be historically correct
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Duncan Cragg
07/25/2019, 6:39 PMOn Excel: wouldn't it be right over to the right in terms of state?
Duncan Cragg
07/26/2019, 8:00 AMI'm struggling to fit my own language into this framework, and it should explicitly name Excel formulae somewhere, as one of the most popular languages.
Duncan Cragg
07/26/2019, 8:01 AMIs the author on this Slack? Maybe let's invite them?
Duncan Cragg
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Deklan Webster
07/26/2019, 10:08 PM@Duncan Cragg good idea
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Duncan Cragg
07/27/2019, 12:58 PMNo reply though 😕
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Deklan Webster
07/27/2019, 2:59 PM@Duncan Cragg he did reply. ?
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Duncan Cragg
07/27/2019, 3:36 PMOh yeah, I don't know how to get real notifications on twitter (i.e. separating replies from algorithm nonsense)
Duncan Cragg
07/27/2019, 4:32 PMDon't know why it didn't show up in my main stream, although that's algorithm as well of course, things often go missing.
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shalabh
08/02/2019, 9:56 PMHot take question: Is the programming paradigm important? Even if Excel were to fit somewhere in this diagram, would it tell you much about what the most interesting aspects are when programming in that environment?
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Duncan Cragg
08/02/2019, 10:02 PMIt was more about challenging a framework that wouldn't allow it to be placed, but glad to find it can be!
Duncan Cragg
08/02/2019, 10:02 PM.. or can it? I think it should be far over to the right
Duncan Cragg
08/02/2019, 10:03 PMpart of a subversive streak in me to disrupt the way techies see the world, etc, etc! 😄
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