Anyone seen Roam Research? It's a newcomer in the ...
# thinking-together
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Anyone seen Roam Research? It's a newcomer in the notetaking Notion/Evernote/etc space. It's been getting rave reviews on nerdy parts of Twitter. The focus on alignment with thought-process seems FoC-like. Not really Future of Coding specific, but it appears to be an adjacent topic here (based on past conversation) https://roamresearch.com/
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I saw those rave reviews too, had a quick look, and decided "maybe later". It looks like the notes are stored in a proprietary format on their server, meaning that I would not want to use the tool for anything important anyway, no matter how good it might be otherwise.
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Understandable. On the other hand,
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38 days ago

Cofounder here -- just want to let people know that we STRONGLY believe that your data shouldn't be trapped in a SAAS application.

Roam does allow you to export all your data to an org-mode file (the emacs outliner), we're working on other import/export options, and want to get to the place where there is a close to plain text representation of your Roam workspace on your file system that syncs both ways.

We weren't expecting someone to post us to HN yet. This is a case of, if you're not embarrassed on launch, you launched too late. Just want to let y'all know we dont believe in SAAS lockin for a tool for thought, and data portability for the folks who aren't emacs users is coming.
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It’s on my docket to try out—I’ll let you know how it goes. I have very weird requirements for notetaking applications (although Roam seems like the closest match yet). I wish text wasn’t like the “default” format, though.
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@Deklan Webster That’s good news! Roam is moving up on my list of new stuff to try out.
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@Garth Goldwater @Konrad Hinsen cool. Let us know how it goes 🙂
I've just started trying it myself, yesterday
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This seems really, really nice. I've been looking for something like this to organize my notes for Hest. I was resorting to doing it all on paper scattered around my office, pinned up on the walls.. but then you can't really make links between things without pins and string and.. well.. this seems a lot nicer.
Ted Nelson-esq bidirectional links feel like an essential ingredient of a truly great hypertext system. I'm excited to finally try them as part of my research & design process.
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Doesn’t TiddlyWiki do most (if not all) of this? Plus, TW runs locally by default. But I’m not sure about bidirectional linking, or that nice outline mode.