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# thinking-together
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Also see Felienne's talk from Strange Loop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1ib43q3uXQ

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In my experience, people who teach coding spend a lot of time arguing about what should be taught first. ... And maybe there is a best thing to teach first, I am not sure. ... But from my experience, motivation makes the most difference. Do anything you can to get students motivated and engaged.