Anybody else here following Apple’s WWDC and havin...
# thinking-together
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Anybody else here following Apple’s WWDC and having FoC-related thoughts about it?
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Any in particular to recommend?
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@Stefan the take away for me is the attention on translation and Siri. Apple is investing more into these categories as they know the interaction with computers (phones, laptops, etc.) will be more and more voice driven in the coming years. Many, including myself, believe that over 50% of our interaction with computers will be voice-driven by the end of the decade (2030). That trend and how it’s related to the FoC is most interesting to me.
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I'm following it very closely. Still waiting for the other AR shoe to drop.
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@Steve Interesting. May I ask which platforms/devices you use on a daily basis today?
@Ivan Reese Two more years. First we get Macs with FaceID and “Air Gestures” to once and for all settle that touch screen debate. ;-)
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Big Sir (as I've self-amusingly taken to calling it) seems awfully touch-friendly all of a sudden. But you're thinking.. what.. they'll do some Magic Leap sort of hand tracking?
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Yeah, that’s my theory. You’ll keep your hands mainly on the keyboard and touchpad, but can lift them up for gestures. There could also be something with attention and where you look at the screen. They could’ve added FaceID already, but I think they wanted to wait for having a Neural Engine and they’re going to put it to use for sure. That would be a nice stepping stone to some gestural interface for AR which surely doesn’t have a surface to touch anymore. Apart from all the exciting stuff that’s going to happen with integrating all the displays you’ll have with you already: watch, phone, tablet.
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@Stefan TBH I’m not very impressed by Siri/Alex as it is today, but I do strongly believe in their future. Right now, the HCI with voice AI is mostly mono-directional (you to computer) as the interface of computer to you is pretty poor IMO, yet getting better. The devices I use are: Alexa at home, and rarely Siri on my iPhone. Alexa has been far more accurate while Siri frustrates me when it gets it wrong, the problem again is that it’s not bi-directional communication.
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Yeah, I was disappointed to not see HomePod get more of an update this year. That device (like AirPods) is a good test case for them to work on all-voice interfaces.
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A small thing but I like how they’re showing pasteboard API accesses to the user. Feels like the system’s behavior is just slightly more visible to the user.
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Shortcuts is definitely more interactive and available now - feels like that's still Apple's big FoC investment • More interactivity via notifications • First-class widgets • Copy/paste blocks • Available on Apple Watch
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I think SwiftUI’s improvements/expansion are very interesting — the syntax is so terse that some bananas things can be accomplished in next to no-code.
For instance,
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﹫main struct EditorApp: App {
    ﹫AppStorage("text") var text = ""

    var body: some Scene {
        WindowGroup {
            TextEditor(text: $text).padding()
        }
    }
}
That is a fully functioning plain text editor
that has made it akin to something like html’s
<input>
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I’ve got my gripes about Swift, for sure, but am excited to see where it lands in 3 or so more years
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Voice is fine for accessibility or when you want to trigger a shortcut or dictate a message while driving, ok, but I honestly can’t understand how people have so much confidence in voice. Have you never been on a call with your bank? Doesn’t even matter if you talk to a robot or a real person there, is that an enjoyable interaction? What would an enjoyable voice interaction with a computer be like? Don’t we need AGI for that?
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SwiftUI is very interesting. I was hoping someone would bring it up, because it does look like a FoC to me.
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@Eli Mellen What are your gripes with Swift?
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Really, my gripes about swift are about the tooling and ecosystem more than the language itself. I’m no fan of Xcode 😐
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wrt. voice interfaces... S: "Would you like to reply?" I: [not talking to siri] S: "Okay. What would you like to say?" I: "Hey Siri, stop." S: "Okay. Your message says: 'Hey Siri, stop'" Sigh.
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@Ivan Reese ^^ ripe for innovation. I do 💯 agree that current voice interfaces are disappointing. This is perfect, just where I personally want them.