Is anybody using RDF and/or SPARQL on your FoC pro...
# thinking-togethere
Emmanuel Oga
07/13/2020, 4:04 AMIs anybody using RDF and/or SPARQL on your FoC projects?
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Chet Corcos
07/13/2020, 4:10 AMNot exactly but I’ve read a lot about it. I’m trying to build some thing similar.
Chet Corcos
07/13/2020, 4:10 AMAre you using it for anything?
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Emmanuel Oga
07/13/2020, 4:12 AMyeah I'm just building my humble blog 🙂
Emmanuel Oga
07/13/2020, 4:13 AMhumble admin panel
Emmanuel Oga
07/13/2020, 4:13 AMso you have turtle on the top, xml on the middle, and a preview in the bottom
Emmanuel Oga
07/13/2020, 4:15 AMbut as soon as I start putting some more sensical data I can start with SPARQL queries, graph algorithms, and "stuff"
Emmanuel Oga
07/13/2020, 4:15 AM😛
Emmanuel Oga
07/13/2020, 4:15 AMI'm curious if ppl is doing something about UIs to input triples
Emmanuel Oga
07/13/2020, 4:15 AMthere are a bunch of schema languages for RDF now (SHACL is getting really popular) and the UI can be built from the schema
Emmanuel Oga
07/13/2020, 4:16 AMso I could potentially add some UI to guide me through adding, say, complete schema.org "Person" information, etc
Emmanuel Oga
07/13/2020, 4:18 AMthere's this sort of thing: http://datashapes.org/forms.html
Emmanuel Oga
07/13/2020, 4:18 AMI don't know that anybody but topquadrant is doing anything with that so far.
Emmanuel Oga
07/13/2020, 4:19 AMyou are trying to build something similar @Chet Corcos?
Emmanuel Oga
07/13/2020, 4:19 AMwdym?
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Chet Corcos
07/13/2020, 6:41 AMOh cool, yeah not super familiars with RDF. Building something more similar to Datomic, if you’ve heard it that.
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Emmanuel Oga
07/13/2020, 6:48 AMah ok, so you are building some sort of triple/quad/~n-quad~/ n-tuple db?
Emmanuel Oga
07/13/2020, 6:51 AMif you are gonna build a brand new DB, perhaps you could consider RDF* first, although I'm sure you have your reasons for needing a new database
Emmanuel Oga
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Andy F
07/13/2020, 5:02 PMI have a future-db project that works in terms of n-tuples, it seems like levergaing RDF/SPARQL might be a good fit but I haven’t gone deep in that subject yet
Andy F
07/13/2020, 5:04 PMthe RDF landscape is a little intimidating.. I guess there are different flavors like RDF*? I’d be really interested to read a modern friendly intro to the topic
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Chet Corcos
07/13/2020, 5:04 PMYeah, I did consider using RDF but it adds a lot of incidental complexity that I don’t need... might still have a compatibility later...
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Jack Rusher
07/13/2020, 6:39 PMMy past, present and future of code projects use this sort of thing. (The most cited definition of a Semantic Web triple store is a paper I presented to the W3C nearly 20 years ago.)
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Emmanuel Oga
07/13/2020, 8:45 PMthe rdf primer is pretty good https://www.w3.org/TR/rdf11-primer/
Emmanuel Oga
07/13/2020, 8:48 PMalso wrote a possible outlne to learn more about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/semanticweb/comments/fxtaxe/books_on_the_semantic_web/fppxi1l/
Emmanuel Oga
07/13/2020, 10:09 PMoh, perfect timing: https://twitter.com/ApacheJena/status/1282691013665067010
Emmanuel Oga
07/13/2020, 10:09 PM😛
Emmanuel Oga
07/13/2020, 10:12 PMI think someone can get up to speed with the ecosystem in a few weeks, vs the time it would take to build a db from scratch. Jena has been around for around 20 years and battle tested with huge loads of data, that's also really hard to replicate.
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