Hello everyone :wave: From time to time I checkout...
# thinking-togetherc
curious_reader
09/03/2020, 12:09 PMHello everyone 👋 From time to time I checkout this Youtube Channel: UnjadedJade , as I'm now 40 years its an interesting experience to see someones (much younger ) perspectives on things. So today she released a Video how she would organize her life with notion. As we can see she works quite fluently with it. Now do you know by any chance this apple knowledge navigator Video form 1987 :
What do you think about her usage of Notion when comparing it to the knowledge navigator? What do you think when comparing your personal knowledge management workflow ( roam, zettelkasten, emacs, vim ...) with hers? What aspects do you like of her example notion usage and what might be missing or completely unthinkable in the notion representation? Thanks for your thoughts! Ah a bonus question: do you have a "peoples database" only for professional contacts or personal too? Both mixed? If not I would be curious how you manage/organize that. Thanks!
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robenkleene
09/03/2020, 1:54 PMHuh, when I click the link to the Unjaded Jade video says it says it's unavailable/private?
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curious_reader
09/03/2020, 4:42 PM@robenkleene its as Ivan said , she reposted it
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robenkleene
09/03/2020, 5:08 PMA couple of thoughts about this category, the first is that apps like this went through several eras. I find this interesting, because ideas that are very very old, have suddenly become popular seemingly out of nowhere (at least to me). So a question I have is "why now?"
Here's how I'd outline the "eras" of todo lists and information managers:
-- Niche (2000-2008)
OmniOutliner
Tinderbox
DevonThink
VoodooPad
-- Enthusiast (2008-2019)
OmniFocus
Evernote
Yojimbo
Workflowy
Wunderlist (now Microsoft To Do)
Things
-- Mainstream Inflection Point (2020-)
Notion
Roam
robenkleene
09/03/2020, 5:22 PMThe second thought is that there are generally three types (sorry these categories names aren't great, but they're the best I could come up with):
1. Custom/Hackable: Org Mode, todo.txt, building your own on Markdown
2. Straight-Forward Apps: Most apps before the mainstream inflection point fit into this category (one exception is Tinderbox, which I'd actually call a super app). These apps fit into well-defined categories: todo list, notes, or everything bucket.
3. "Super Apps": Notion and Roam are something new. They have enough of their own concepts that defy categorization.
By far the most popular seem to #3, and I don't really get what's going on here. Why these apps have suddenly become so popular, and especially managed to capture so much imagination.
robenkleene
09/03/2020, 5:22 PMI guess perhaps it's just a natural evolution of Evernote, but with so many more people on social media now, it ends of feeling so much bigger?
robenkleene
09/03/2020, 5:26 PM(Regarding the comparison to the knowledge navigator, that product seems way more AI-driven than Notion. That's one of the things I find incredible about Notion and Roam, these are very fiddly, manual, apps. I always figured that's why information wasn't more popular before it went mainstream: it takes so much work.)
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curious_reader
09/04/2020, 12:49 PMI think I am also interested in the style of the conversation or how the assistant blocks another phonecall vs how notifications work today.
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