https://yakcollective.mirror.xyz/aJdO_SO3gw34cLtwBwNC2OD3s0YT3us9C-C2NNPQ_us may be interesting to some people in this group. It's arguably off-topic for this group, but there is a fig leaf: Ivan Illich is one of the targets of commentary, and seeing his work embedded in a state space gave me interesting context and perspective on Tools for conviviality (http://akkartik.name/illich.pdf)

Hey 👋 I didn't noticed back then that you also shared this. My sharing was just a few days earlier:

💡 I hadn't seen your post either. I think any new tool will also need a new community, with norms and governance mechanisms. So this post in particular is very relevant to us.

Thank you for framing it like this! Yes agree and would very much like to see some kind of more involved experiments or just anything in this direction 👌

The hard part is always the skills you don't have an opportunity to learn until you have some success. And then you have to learn them quickly because the stakes are high. The governance readings help a bit with that sort of thing. Just in case one of us ever has any success.