Yeah thanks, and I think you're right although that wasn't my inspiration. For me it was more of a natural progression of some my wishes on my bucketlist. I wanted to write a layout editor for form design actually and because I already had nodes with UI it was a natural step to be able to include those in the layout. The funny thing is that I haven't build that form-designer yet😀. But thanks for sharing those details about max-msp and pure/data, I am going to look at that (because I haven't so far😊)