Is this Alan Kay on Twitter? <https://twitter.com/...
# linking-together
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(I don't think this is Alan Kay but the account on twitter is def entertaining for folks familiar with Kay's ideas) πŸ˜„
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It's good enough - followed
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Heh yeah. Maybe it's someone running GPT-3 over Kay's material. πŸ˜†
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I was wondering the same thing. I think it actually is Alan – see the replies here and here. They don't feel like the sort of things someone running a puppet account would say.
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Hmm.. yeah. There's more stuff in the replies which I'm reading now.
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100 points to whoever convinces him to be an active, interested member of this community.
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We're like Twitter but smaller and... smaller.
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Now I'm suddenly feeling sad that more 50 years after the mother of all demos, the most popular global mediums for interacting with interesting folk and sharing ideas are twitter and slack.
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On phones and tablets with everyone in the world πŸ˜„
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@shalabh Love to hear your thoughts on what you'd like to see from an ideal way for people to share ideas, especially if it's inspired by the Mother of All Demos, which I understand to be mainly about real-time collaboration. I sort of put collaboration and sharing ideas in different buckets, perhaps those lines could be blurred?
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For starters at least drawing a little picture should be as easy as typing some text. I've got 4K 2 million pixels, a touchscreen, even a stylus sitting in front of me, and here I am explaining the picture in my head using ~26 buttons. Really any computation related idea would be live and executable 'inline'. E.g. not "heres a demo video" or "here's a link to the software you can download, configure, fix all the build/install errors and perhaps then run". But rather "heres a demo video you can pause, rewinde and takeover to play with the system to take it elsewhere." Also, the virtual visual medium should be annotate-able. While watching the live executable/video, I want to pause, circle a part and type a comment and start a thread. I also want to be able to view/change the source right there (fork it live!) to try out an idea. Then other folks can view the annotation, try out my change etc. I mentioned the Mother of All Demos because that inspired a lot of ideas about a shared collaborative space, not specifically for ideas in the demo itself.
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@Ivan Reese those seemed plausible to me too, but then they writes stuff like this which seems out of character for Alan: https://twitter.com/NotAlanKay/status/1283456081868386304
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Maybe someone in touch with Yoshiki Ohshima can ask him: https://twitter.com/yoshikiohshima
Alan Kay has many dedicated fans that have spent lots of time reading through his work. He has a unique writing voice too, which, once recognized, I think can be plausibly emulated.
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The statement about Bill English is almost identical to the one from real Alan Kay on quora:
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Ok so I'm going back to a hypothesis that someone fed all of Kay's quora answers (and more) to GPT-3. However, I really didn't think GPT-3 could make a joke like this: https://twitter.com/NotAlanKay/status/1282745357504442368 So maybe it's a human augmented machine. Ironic?
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It seems quite plausible to me that GPT-3 or whatever could have ripped off that joke wholesale from an existing source. No comment on the question of the account's owner...
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Also there is this reply to Steve, where Alan talks about the lunch the had together some time ago. Though, I agree that someone can figure it out by doing some research about Steve, or by knowing him (maybe someone from this community!?). https://twitter.com/NotAlanKay/status/1291097295929319424
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If you want to do a Turing test on that account, you have to interact with it!
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I think it's a parody account, although I guess that doesn't rule out the possibility it's run by Kay [[X-Files music...]]
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I googled this info and found nothing. Only learned by chance from watching a youtube video of Alan Kay talking about AR.

https://youtu.be/TI7I0nvcQtg?t=439β–Ύ

So if it is a person, it is extremely researched in all Alan Kay matters or the gpt-3 model is fed with youtube transcripts as well. My bet is the latter (or actually Alan Kay). https://twitter.com/NotAlanKay/status/1291410134007033856
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I don't know if we can get Alan Kay to join this slack, but likely we can get NotAlanKay to join?
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It’s just @stevekrouse trolling us? (In that case, please keep going. We like it.)
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I think Steve is on the receiving end of a trolling, if anything πŸ˜„.
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This is Horse JS all over again. (In that it is run by someone well-known in the JS community, but last I heard, the identity of the author is still only known by a few folks)
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Would folks fancy a Q&A with Alan? Like me he lives in London, I could maybe set up a livestream. Warning: takes him a minimum 25 minutes to answer a single question.
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@hamish todd A Q&A would be awesome!
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(I think this warrants a separate thread β€” it's no longer about the twitter account in question)