Hey everyone, I found out today that the Alan Kay wiki I made was deleted without notice and cannot be restored. I'm doing my best to restore it from an incomplete 2016 archive.org backup but there's definitely stuff missing. Any help would be greatly appreciated, especially the Writing page which has been completely lost. Here's its new home: https://www.notion.so/Alan-Kay-Wiki-0bee993e14874b66b7b9fcfc83a91c92

Argh that's terrible. What happened?.. I always do a

wget --mirror

on my online stuff that isn't sourced from my laptop in the first place. No help to you now, of course! 😄

can we use https://tinlizzie.org/IA/index.php/Talks_by_Alan_Kay to help? I think by Yoshiki

it was hosted on wikia/fandom and they just deleted it completely without notice and don't have backups

surprised that archive.org has failed you though?

I mean yeah it just doesn't have the page: https://web.archive.org/web/20160609113912/https://alan-kay.wikia.com/wiki/Alan_Kay_Wiki

I searched for

site:<http://www.vpri.org/pdf/> "Alan Kay"

on Google and that surfaces a bunch of writings by Kay. Would need to be curated though.

Lately I try to drop the middle people and just host with archive.org..

I suppose Ctrl-F for Kay here would also work: http://www.vpri.org/writings.php

hm, looks like https://mprove.de/visionreality/media/kay.html does a better job than I could

Oh no! I was just looking at the wiki a couple months ago. It was a really good reference. The mprove page is nice as an overview but personally what I found valuable about the wiki was the guided tour through his most important works and the Concepts page. (fyi, in case there's any confusion, the Yoshiki of tinlizzie linked to by @Srini K here is Yoshiki Oshima, I am Yoshiki Schmitz, no relation!)

oh yeah, I knew it was Oshima 🙂 but he’s not in this SLack I think

Also @Glen Chiacchieri the link to "Powerful Ideas Need Love To" is broken. This one should work: http://worrydream.com/refs/Kay%20-%20Powerful%20Ideas%20Need%20Love%20Too.html

Ouch. One more good argument for (1) working local-first and (2) regular donations to the Internet Archive.

@yoshiki it's a wiki! you can edit it 🙂

another ‘data source’: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aworrydream.com+alan+kay&oq=site%3Aworrydream.com+alan+kay&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.3559j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

@Srini K feel free to add them to like the bottom of the Writings page or something

just saw - this is so ass. any way to contact the wikia team?