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# linking-together
k
Interesting. Lots of activity on the status page, but I don't see any mention of packaging the system or whole applications in a single file: https://github.com/helloSystem/hello/wiki/Status
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s
Is it just me, or is this a disguised "make Desktop Linux more like macOS" article?
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On that note, does anyone have experience with and an opinion on https://elementary.io ?
k
@Stefan I did a test-install of Elementary OS for my wife a while ago. She didn't like it, and I didn't either. More precisely, it's nice at first sight and frustrating after a few days. It turned out to be too rigid for efficient personal configuration. I am not sure what lesson to draw from that. Maybe it's indeed too rigid, and more configurability is the answer. But its rigid setup is just not well-enough designed. It's hard to say what the problem is before you actually come up with a solution.
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j
@Stefan and not even the good parts of macOS
c
Shared for the criteria in the article, not Elementary OS
s
@Jack Rusher What do you consider the good parts?
j
@Stefan Attempts to make Linux — and because they just borrow from Linux, {Free,Open,Net}BSD — more friendly have mostly involved aping the look and feel of macOS/Windows, especially by designing interactions where every intention is forced through the path of click-click-clicking the mouse by hand, like an animal. In contrast, the NeXT team did some good work around making WiMP interfaces a more integral part of the system (scriptable with programmatic access to things that can also be triggered by the mouse, for example). Rather than embrace that approach, this set of suggestions goes right back to fully manual click-click-click. I should say also that, although I hate this document's suggestions, my dream isn't Linux standardizing on some kind of OpenStep-over-Wayland. I'd really like to see someone trying for real innovation in the graphical shell space and aiming that work at FOSS operating systems rather than making some mock ups and hoping to get hired by Apple to polish their chrome.
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s
@Jack Rusher Have you seen https://arcan-fe.com/ ?
j
@S.M Mukarram Nainar Arcan as a whole is at the level below the one where I think most of the action should start, but they have an interesting subproject called Durden that's looking into some of the things I hope to see explored. :)