has anybody seen <https://www.mm-adt.org/> and <ht...
# linking-togethere
Emmanuel Oga
12/07/2020, 3:23 AMhas anybody seen https://www.mm-adt.org/ and https://www.mm-adt.org/vm/ ? (by one of the creators of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gremlin_(query_language)). I don't fully understand the concept but maybe someone here does?
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Emmanuel Oga
12/07/2020, 3:27 AMquery language developers can create languages irrespective of the underlying storage system that will ultimately be manipulated by the language.
processing engine developers can have their processors programmed by any query language for data stored in any storage system.
storage systems (such as databases) immediately support any all mm-ADT compliant query languages and processors in support of the multifarious requirements of their end users' data processing requirements.
Emmanuel Oga
12/07/2020, 3:29 AMsounds like some sort of universal runtime (something like wasm?) but also including a specification for data storage and querying
Emmanuel Oga
12/07/2020, 3:41 AMthere's an economic aspect too: https://www.slideshare.net/slidarko/mmadt-a-virtual-machinean-economic-machine
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Andrew F
12/07/2020, 5:47 AMI'll have to spend more time looking at this. Thanks!
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Prathyush
12/09/2020, 11:42 AMYeah, he is crazy. I don’t understand what he has done either. Waiting to finish a course of abstract algebra before trying to understand the trade offs done in his stream ring theory.
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Andrew F
12/09/2020, 9:00 PMThe project looks like an attempt to create the encoding-independent layer @shalabh and I were talking about in this thread: https://futureofcoding.slack.com/archives/C5T9GPWFL/p1606359276136400?thread_ts=1606359276.136400&cid=C5T9GPWFL
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shalabh
12/10/2020, 4:33 PMInteresting - thanks @Andrew F this looks interesting. Will be looking deeper into this later.
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Prathyush
12/10/2020, 10:50 PM@Andrew F Pretty much. I would love to know if you guys can make an assessment to what degree this project has succeeded. Its a darn interesting take on databases, especially given his background and the math heavy lifting he has done.
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shalabh
12/15/2020, 1:55 AMOnly got a little bit of the idea and then got lost (drowned?) in the heavy math in the spec: https://www.mm-adt.org/vm/. I'd just like to see a simple useful program in this system, with a description of how it would run on the VM and how it would interact with the systems outside of it. I can't see many people reading that reference to understand and use this system.
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Emmanuel Oga
12/16/2020, 12:19 AMIt seems the thing is under heavy work in progress but the author does have an open repo
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Prathyush
12/21/2020, 3:02 PM@shalabh His gist is full of practical examples:
https://gist.github.com/okram?page=1
Few examples:
1/ https://gist.github.com/okram/29f3f09830aeb43c5d6679201965eb38
2/ https://gist.github.com/okram/40bcf11d86c4e542a3bb2f2d9ca7716e
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