Has anyone checked out Anytype at all <https://any...
# linking-togetherc
Chris Knott
10/01/2021, 8:52 PMHas anyone checked out Anytype at all https://anytype.io/en ?
I think I must have signed up for an email list a while ago; just got an alert about getting access to the alpha.
Very little info on the website (which is almost off-puttingly professional for what is apparently FOSS).
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shalabh
10/02/2021, 12:19 AMInteresting... had not seen it. This "objects, not apps" idea is really spreading. For example this tweet and thread around it: https://twitter.com/adamtowerz/status/1443505915483725826
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shalabh
10/02/2021, 12:22 AMOn this topic, here's an older email from Alan Kay to the VPRI list, about "no apps, only objects": https://www.mail-archive.com/fonc@vpri.org/msg04503.html
shalabh
10/02/2021, 12:26 AMHere are "lab notes" from a person doing "my research on the future of personal computing". I think they are all well written and overlap with a lot of themes discussed here. Look at Universal Data Portability, for instance, or Graph OS.
https://alexanderobenauer.com/labnotes/000/
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Kartik Agaram
10/02/2021, 1:10 AM
On a tangent, it's interesting to see "future" in the tagline here.
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Yousef El-Dardiry
10/02/2021, 3:36 AMI signed up a while ago but no invite yet. What’s your first impression @Chris Knott?
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Jack Rusher
10/02/2021, 6:30 AMGood example of "ontology as insult"
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Chris Knott
10/02/2021, 7:14 AM@Yousef El-Dardiry you have to book a zoom intro session before you get access, mine is in two weeks
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Yousef El-Dardiry
10/02/2021, 7:15 AMCool, keep us posted! ✌️
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curious_reader
10/04/2021, 6:50 AM@shalabh I will extend this into its own topic
curious_reader
10/04/2021, 6:55 AMIn general I think it’s a nice idea to build on web3 standards like IPFS, I also like that it has this objects as a building block notion. It even feels a little bit like Zettelkasten thing.
curious_reader
10/04/2021, 7:00 AMBut it seems they only use go I hope their engineering and community story works out for them. It’s one thing to be technical excellent (which they still have to prove!) but it’s two other things to extend the projects metaphors to programmers and it’s users as sustainable culture.
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Joe Trellick
10/04/2021, 7:39 PMI've talked with the Anytype folks, they are trying to do something interesting: sort of a modular app environment built on top of IPFS (so local-first/can sync between devices with only a local network). They're starting with sort of a Notion-alike initial functionality to make sure that it can work as a product for early adopters
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Chris Knott
10/04/2021, 8:06 PMDo you know how they are funded?
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Yousef El-Dardiry
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Joe Trellick
10/05/2021, 9:58 AMYes, they bootstrapped to start, and then took some seed funding from investors (my understanding is consistent with CrunchBase's).
Their stated intention is to build something open source & self-hostable while also finding a way to sustainably support a small core team to push things forward
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Chris Knott
10/17/2021, 6:41 PMI have access to the Alpha now and have given it the briefest play around.
Basically it is very similar to Notion. In fact some aspects are so similar they might run into some legal trouble tbh.
Given that Notion's main negative for me is that it's always online and hosted on their servers, I would say that this implementation is much better, but from a UX experience they are pretty similar with Anytype missing quite a lot of features at the moment. It's very early days and they don't have Notion's resources I don't think, so a direct comparison isn't really fair, but the main distinguishing feature is how they are implemented, not what they do.
I was impressed with the team who gave the demo, they are very down to earth, open to suggestions, honest about limitations etc.
Chris Knott
10/17/2021, 6:43 PM@Jack Rusher will be pleased to know that Kay's Type was upgraded to "Computer pioneer" in the version of the presentation used in the onboarding (although I'm sure he'd still be upset to be imprisoned in such a restrictive type system at all!)
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