(FWIW, I'm refusing to watch the clip on principle. I'll now duck out of this conversation.)

Musks Depressing Philosophers • #tags: #elon_musk #philosophy #nietzsche • • EM: "We happened to have some books by Nietzsche and Schopenhauer in the house, which you should not read at age 14" • • EM: "I guess when I was around 12 or 15…I had an existential crisis, and I was reading various books on trying to figure out the meaning of life and what does it all mean? It all seemed quite meaningless and then we happened to have some books by Nietzsche and Schopenhauer in the house, which you should not read at age 14 (laughter). It is bad, it’s really negative. So then I read Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy which is quite positive I think and it highlighted an important point which is that a lot of times the question is harder than the answer. And if you can properly phrase the question, then the answer is the easy part. So, to the degree that we can better understand the universe, then we can better know what questions to ask. Then whatever the question is that most approximates: what’s the meaning of life? That’s the question we can ultimately get closer to understanding. And so I thought to the degree that we can expand the scope and scale of consciousness and knowledge, then that would be a good thing." Source: https://www.freshdialogues.com/2013/02/07/transcript-of-elon-musk-interview-with-alison-van-diggelen-iron-man-growing-up-in-south-africa/ •

How did Capitalism and his family relationships influence him?

Very influential was his Marriage with Justin Musk ( and the death of their first son)

At this point one can see how money got into the mind of elon as a invasive force, how his psychology was twisted to - create the future he imagined, by all means necessary -

The Cook and the Chef: Musk’s Secret Sauce • #tags: #elon_musk #waitbutwhy #article #society #frame #narrative • • https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/11/the-cook-and-the-chef-musks-secret-sauce.html • • brain as a computer and many other sloppy analogies • it seems at least at that time tim urban was kind of riding on the "new atheists" wave of the culture wars, has it informed his identity • the feedback loop patterns are interesting, but in the whole article he doesn't mention psychology? • quoting seth godin, I am reminded of jordan halls remark on him • musks "reasoning from first principles" its a frame of thought a view on the world see heideggers - aleteiha • but somehow it also could be look at everything with a fresh perspective - sadhguru • also it feels very strongly like the "*naive progress story*" daniel schmachtenberger mentions • "musk software" and grand theft life

When Musk hired Tim urban to write about his goals and aspirations in life that was already a bigger plan on expanding his mindset to a bigger audience, to create appeal for....

Neuralink and the Brain’s Magical Future • https://waitbutwhy.com/2017/04/neuralink.html • in this article the sci fci Nexus by Ramez Naam is Mention and in there are the clear descriptions of trans- and post humanism

Is it inevitable that Brain Interfaces exist like in the Nexus books? Of course all my writing here is also a check on how close you feel the butlerian Jihad is.

(Meta: If you feel like I'm being unfair or am somehow missing the point by shutting down this discussion, I'd be happy to talk more about that, either here or in #CEXED56UR or via DMs.)

But his : Civilization, series did contain some interesting perspectives on what kind of patterns influence history.

did you see his episode on stalin or the last on the collapsing uS?