Latest notes about what we've been working on with...
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Christopher Shank
08/09/2025, 4:14 AMLatest notes about what we've been working on with the folkjs project. Explorations include DOM sync, Desktop Interlay via Accessibility Trees, DOM interactions and instruments, HTML pipes, HTML attributes for syntax highlighting, LSPs, and reordering lists, and much more!
https://github.com/folk-js/folkjs/discussions/43
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Daniel Garcia
08/10/2025, 6:27 PMReally cool @Christopher Shank !
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We are currently building out a collection of core interactions around selection, creation, brushing, that can be composed together into comprehensive interactions and instruments.c
Christopher Shank
08/11/2025, 6:17 AMThanks!
Christopher Shank
08/11/2025, 6:29 AMNo documentation on them, but all interactions are located here https://github.com/folk-js/folkjs/tree/main/packages/labs/src/interactions
a rough list, its pretty focused to digital whiteboard since that's what I've been dog feeding them on.
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selectElementclickToSelectElementselectElementsclickToSelectElementdragImageOutOfVideoFramedeleteElementByClickclickToCreateElementdragToCreateElementdragToCreateShapeclickToAnnotateShapesclickToCreateConnectionclickToCreateArrowclickToCreateEventPropagatorclickToMergeShapes🙏 1
Christopher Shank
08/11/2025, 6:33 AMI want to work on a brushing interaction soon so imagine interaction like
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brushbrushToSelectElementsbrushToDeleteElementsbrushToLayoutElementsbrushToDrawInkd
Daniel Garcia
08/12/2025, 8:58 PMIs there a guide on how to make them work in my browser?
I’m mainly interested in the ones related to code editors e.g. syntax highlight attribute, lsp attribute
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Konrad Hinsen
08/13/2025, 9:31 AMThanks @Christopher Shank! I really likes "_Live Programming in Hostile Territory",_ which I discovered via these notes. Lack of interoperability is one of the major problems I see for more human-centric computing. Tech has been feudal since long before BigTech. Example: every programming language is a silo, and PL adoption relies a lot on domination.
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Christopher Shank
08/14/2025, 11:27 PM@Daniel Garcia DM me, would love to learn more about what' you're interested in.
Christopher Shank
08/14/2025, 11:54 PM@Konrad Hinsen Thanks!! Ya we submitted this paper to LIVE and I know there's a bunch of people on the PC here so I didn't want to publicize it too much yet.
Christopher Shank
08/15/2025, 6:14 AMI've been thinking about how "lack of interoperability" is almost putting it too nicely and it's really the idea of active and/or intention domination happening at many layers of the stack.
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Konrad Hinsen
08/15/2025, 7:31 AMInteroperability is hard, it requires a serious effort, which includes actually talking to others whose world views differ from your own. Therefore every new tech is likely to start out as a silo, even without any intentions of domination. You can only plan for domination if you are a big player already. I doubt, for example, that Guido van Rossum was aiming for domination when he published Python 1.0 back in 1991. He even thought about interoperability with everything that mattered at the time: C and C-compatible languages. Today's BigTech is a different story of course.
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Christopher Shank
08/18/2025, 4:32 AMTherefore every new tech is likely to start out as a silo, even without any intentions of domination.This default is something i want to figure out what the inverse looks like, what does computing look like where the default is new project starts communal, building off the plurality that exists and integratabtle back with that plurality
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