Hey FoC 👋 I recently stumbled upon this: https://github.com/muni-town/roomy I found it quite interesting to see how fluid you could go from thought/chat to blog/text (see attachment). Different projects related to AT Protocol are exploring different notions of communication patterns like here: https://cosmik.network/ or here https://garden.co/. Cosmik employes the concept of stigmercy, something which I think would be very useful for FoC and other communities. Foc beeing trapped in SLACK for so long is cruel enough. Of course tools were build but ... One can really see how certain preconceived notions of interaction patterns are starting to break up in interesting ways. a PKM tool is usually for personal reflection( hence the P in PKM) of course I could always take a zettel and expand it or include it in messages, which I still sometimes do. But I think there more to it. As we explorer the patterns of communication. Relating to other people, where does my - self, myself start where does -the others- start? So chat is quite a low entry barrier and a interesting start to start communicating with others. Their project site even has a values section: https://muni.town/values I recently started using anytype.io and was surprised how good the mobile sync worked. Sharing with other people works OK. But then I tried to share a SVG file,... or I tried to create mermaid or a mindmap and view it on mobile... Clojure clerk is a notebook for some computational stuff but I like the Idea of having snippets that can be evaluated which reminded me of projects like: http://cloxp.github.io/cloxp-intro.html or https://lively-kernel.org/ To hit the sweet spot is really not simple one wants to avoid to re-invent all of personal computing just to do some note taking and collaboration... While researching I also found this: https://neurite.network/ I vaguely remember reading something about it here at Foc but the search did bring up anything for me.. I hope that the AT protocol related tools become mature enough such that I can use it for my own zettelkasten which is based on markdown. But I really would like to test out the other collaboration based features. What are your experiences with zettelkasten and collaboration? Could you imagine something like roomy being sufficiently good enough to finally replace SLACK for example? WDYT @Ivan Reese?

Thanks for these links. I'm default skeptical of new things, particularly new things that look like startups, or hide behind a waitlist, or don't work on Firefox. However, Erlend has karma with me, and I had missed this talk. I just created an account on roomy.chat if anyone wants to try it out. Does this link work for others? It's possible it requires us to bind our own domain name..

one wants to avoid to re-invent all of personal computing just to do some note taking and collaboration

It doesn't hurt to start with writing and expand from there :)

We do have confirmation that people are able to use my link above to kick the wheels on roomy.chat. I'm going to try to keep it going. I've called it Freeing our Computers, as a compromise between FoC and Freewheeling Apps. It has a plausible affordance for going from chat to threads to pages with links that are accessible outside the community, and I'd love to test with others how well it works over time.

I had to authorize roomy.chat with my bsky account first, then click the link here a second time to add the room

Interesting!

I had the same experience as Ivan

On one of my devices I'm no longer able to see the channel and category I created. So definitely half-baked.

FYI: it’s all totally pre alpha , BUT we could play around with it …

Do y'all still see the channel I created?

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Oh you can see the stuff on the main pane even if the channel list is missing. I can't see either.

only via the invite link, if i click on the icon to the left im locked out

@Spencer Fleming check this out for gardening, IMO it’s what we have been doing here for years, they just found a nice label for it :), in my Zettelkasten I call it “Begriffsgenese“ https://blog.muni.town/chatty-community-gardens/

ok, if I understand it right, it's about going up the formality from Chat -> Thread -> Wiki Page / Article, in as seamless a way as possible

Zulip seems to have chat + threads, but no equivalent to wiki pages.

i dont think it has a wiki feature tho, yea

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