I've been reading various books on architecture theory and (obviously) thinking how the ideas there might apply to programming. It is all still very much early ideas (basically trying to find programming equivalents for lots of interesting ideas I came across) - but I would love to hear what people think about it: https://tomasp.net/architecture/ (There is also a PDF version: https://tomasp.net/architecture/pdf/draft-april-2025.pdf)

I read this over the weekend, and plan to re-read soon. Many ideas that resonate with me, need to ponder them a bit more.

I'm 10 pages in, and this has some overlap with @Lu Wilson's thread a few days ago. > Eisenman himself went on to explore various uses of a formal architectural grammar, not just analytically, but also as the basis for new designs in his numbered series of houses, some built and some unbuilt. The House X, for instance, is a critique of “the idea of development from simple to complex” by using the L-shape as a starting point, replacing the conventional cube. The design questions the humanist ideology by disrupting the centrality that is typical of most houses. Where one might expect a hearth or a staircase, there is nothing. The fact that this introduces a degree of disharmony in the project has become a contentious issue. While Eisenman argued that an important role of art and architecture is reminding people that “everything isn’t all right”, Christopher Alexander in a debate said that such design makes him “incredibly angry” and he saw projects that introduce disharmony as “fucking up the world”. > > Eisenman himself collaborated with Derrida on a project for a garden in the Parc de la Villette. The proposal rescales and overlays a number of different structures including historical state of the site when it was a part of city walls and other projects by Eisenman and his collaborators. The almost mechanical design method is used to destabilize traditional values of architecture such as its human scale and function. The authors propose to do this by making parts of the park unexpectedly large or small, or by making parts inaccessible. The La Villette project thus uses the architectural language to question the basic assumptions of architecture. The project, again, causes the kind of disharmony that would enrage Christopher Alexander. It seems to me the synthesis of this debate is: who pays the price? When you jam on a live performance the audience and the performers share a context and partake of the consequences of their actions fairly equally. If Eisenman is willing to live in the houses he creates as artistic statements, then his actions seem more defensible. But if he's going to move on and leave others to suffer the consequences of viscerally inhabiting buildings that for him are just an intellectual exercise, then I agree with CA. He's fucking up the world.

if it was a "jam", then anyone could change the space and 'unfuck up' the space. or in the construction of said space, anyone could contribute. i wonder what that would look like. i see way more links to Christopher Alexander from jamming, with his pattern languages serving as bottom-up suggestions, very similar to jam coding's mantras

@Kartik Agaram That's an important point that I'd expect to be raised by postmodern critics of architecture: the power relation between the architect-designer and the people who will later live or work in the building. Another example is Le Corbusier's "Villa Savoye" that @tomasp mentions. It was actually a pain to live in. The construction techniques of the time were not up to Le Corbusier's dreams, and as a result there were lots of problems, in particular leaks in various places that nobody managed to fix.

if it was a "jam", then anyone could change the space and 'unfuck up' the space

But sometimes decisions are easier to make than they are to unmake.

sure!

Brandolini's law : The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it. Actually a variant on a much older insight: "_Audacter calumniare, semper aliquid haeret" ("_slander boldly, something always sticks"). Goes back to Francis Bacon at least.

@Konrad Hinsen nocode is a very nice example. I also like some of the esoteric languages. The thing that I'm wondering about is that something like this on the software side is a nice fun toy example - but somehow in architecture, it can be integrated into actual buildings that still work and get used (often more special kinds, like museums or even memorials)...

I would say about 95% of the things I make are in this category. DreamBerd and being the clearest parodies. but things like arroost are too. and things like pastagang's nudel. curious to hear your impression and whether they're what you're referring to @tomasp

@Kartik Agaram Eisenman's houses are definitely weird things - but I think their value is that they force us to question what's really "f*** up the world" (and to what extent it already is). I think the point is that often a design approach based on his formal grammar is not worse than what you get as a result of typical commercial methods. And in the world of software, we certainly got some abstractions imported for more aesthetical reasons (category theory, wink wink).

cool! also check out https://logiverse.social and https://pondiverse.com if you'd like (some more recent work)