Here's the re-recording of the remote talk I gave ...
# share-your-work
m
Here's the re-recording of the remote talk I gave at live 2024 about Code Flow Canvas:

youtube video

(there where some streaming issues, so I rerecorded it).
m
Two things. It’s not a generic but meta visual programming. Since meta implies that the devs can implement programming language on top of it. It would be better to make it compatible with the editors and current programming language tech stacks. To easily visualize the debug flow. The way you put requires developers to learn a new tech. It’s not a deal for a lot of people. I am saying it if you want to get it popular
m
Thanks for your feedback! I am not sure about "generic vs meta" here , but I am going to think about it. You could be right though. I am planning to make at least a vs.code extension but also other ways of at least easily using it in modern frontend stacks (or a subset of that) and maybe a simple implementation for c#/.net if I can find the time. But a visual debugger for current programming languages is not the plan if that is what you meant. Creating a tool that will be popular is not the goal. Maybe that will happen one day, who knows, but not in the tools current state 😊. I hope to at least contribute something meaningful and positive to the development of visual programming tools
b
Demo at 2:00 looks pretty Hest-complete (-; @Ivan Reese): valus traveling along edges + time rewinding slider 👏
m
For that specific feature Hest was for sure an inspiration but I am sure it's not Hest-complete 😊
i
Yeah, code flow is exploring lots of different ideas that aren't in Hest, and Hest is exploring stuff like bidirectional execution and, like, weird pointless bullshit because that's arty and I like arty. Glad we have both, and they can learn from each other.
m
Yes, I agree and I also do believe that there's future in visual programming although we might have not found the perfect/best way yet
We should all just keep exploring 😄