Should we co-locate a workshop at Programming 2025? Here are some questions and some ideas for answers: • Name? I propose "Futures of Computing" • Scope? From the name I think it should bring together this and adjacent communities like causal islands, ink & switch, local first, Homebrew Systems Club, whatever @Lu Wilson's 🐸 cult is about • Format? Short hands on demos plus unconference

yes I think that would be awesome

Why not "Future of Coding"? Computing seems ... different.

I want it to be wider, if it has the same name as this community it will sound less welcoming to others

I like the "future*s*" change a lot

yes I think the plural is great! Disassociates it from fascist takes on the future (might sound melodramatic, but is something I often feel around tech 'disruption'). Personally though I think focus on futures is still problematic, when the 'future of programming' really needs to embrace the past. As I said before, I think the 'future of programming' should be read for its irony, as in Bret Victor's talk But I guess nuances are for blurbs rather than titles..

The deadlines for the workshop proposal approaches, should we coordinate somewhere else? who wants to help? An alternative name I thought about is "Computing Systems Collective" 😄

Yes happy to help, what needs doing

first we need to gather some interest 😄

I'll also attend 🙂

If there is anything we can do to help make this happen, let me or @jonathoda know! The "call for workshops" form should not be too daunting, but if there is anything unclear there, we can definitely suggest what to put there. Also, the point of the call is to get some initial things set up - so that we can have a list of events on the web page and help advertising them. But it can be fairly preliminary at this stage - and certainly, things can evolve based on who gets involved later. It would be good to have some preliminary ideas about the ideal format - what kind of content is going to be there (demos, presentations, discussions), how it will be selected (call for demos, papers, invitations) and if there should be any permanent record (nothing, papers, demos, ...).

I put the form on Google doc so we can edit/comment https://docs.google.com/document/d/15qY954XxQdeMjv6q5RMU6oiode4W5DgMDMwbSzdRDC4/edit?tab=t.0