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“My simple answer is that we need better programming languages and less AI.” - Alan Blackwell
<https://moralcodes.pubpub.org>

I want an AI that removes code :slightly_smiling_face:

It's not that AI is good at writing code, it's us humans that really suck at it.

Does any of the coding copilots support requests such as "simplify this code base"?

Its nice to read something which is grounded in experience and a bit more breadth of knowledge.

Then I went to read this chapter: <https://moralcodes.pubpub.org/pub/chapter-6/release/3>

And there it was again, this simplistic, techno optimistic -progressiv - view of the world.

I am a programmer myself. Some people might say "but technology is just a tool its neutral". This was and probably is also the way of thinking in blockchain related circles which inspired projects like Ethereum, Polkadot and Cardano.

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdgQI6CA4-E>

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d3bp33AJFk>

Technology can not ever be alegal or apolitical. Heidegger(Frage zur Technik) makes very good points about how technology has ways to influence the _mindset_ of people using the technology.

Going back to the oh but wiki was great and so is wikipedia, maybe the wiki tech had some potential benefits. But I doubt very much that the author has spend much time on the _immense_ problems that exist within wikipedia.

Here are some thoughts on the - *naive progress* - narrative:

<https://consilienceproject.org/development-in-progress/>

As long as people think technology can fix their problems, there will be more problems. The problem is the more capable technology you create the more severe the problems get you create.

Generalizing:

Going back to the oh but X was great and so is X', maybe the X had some potential benefits. But I doubt very much that the author has spend much time on the _immense_ problems that exist within X'.

I came across <https://www.tumblr.com/squareallworthy/163790039847/everyone-will-not-just|this> today and I think it's useful in many discussions and frustrations here and in general:

&gt; Everyone will not just
&gt; 
&gt; If your solution to some problem relies on “If everyone would just...” then you do not have a solution. Everyone is not going to just. At not time in the history of the universe has everyone just, and they’re not going to start now.

The article by the Consilience Project shared by <@UJFN50C00> is very much worth reading. My TL;DR: whenever you think you make progress on something, look for undesirable side effects, in particular long-term ones.