yoz
11/18/2023, 8:28 PMabeyer
11/18/2023, 10:03 PMJimmy Miller
yoz
11/19/2023, 3:34 AMJimmy Miller
Ivan Reese
oPOKtdJ4UbTdPaZig6jg
11/19/2023, 7:28 AMyoz
11/19/2023, 9:58 AMoPOKtdJ4UbTdPaZig6jg
11/19/2023, 1:38 PMIvan Reese
guitarvydas
11/19/2023, 8:51 PMabeyer
11/19/2023, 10:57 PMI’m in the minority here, but, FWIW ...I'm not sure about that. I even sympathize with a lot of this from a certain perspective, despite generally disagreeing with most of your conclusions. Not gonna nit-pick everything, but can't resist this one:
text-only PLs are, but, 1950’s caveman IDEs for programmingyeah, like scratching surfaces with pointy sticks is actual caveman's IDE for writing, yet I still do the same thing every day with a just slightly more advanced pointy stick, and it would still be a loss to leave it behind despite all the newer tools available. 😄 There's a lot of "horses for courses" in tool selection. On the overall point; like I said I think I at least understand the thought process when I look at it from the perspective of the art and craft of programming. I feel a lot of The Architect's pride in their craftsmanship coming through in that. But when I look at it from the perspective of the actual trade of writing software... giving the infinite flexibility of The Architect's powerful tools for daily work feels a bit like handing out 12 gauge shotguns to a classroom full of kindergartners to swat a fly. Will they kill it? Sure, but I wouldn't want to see the collateral damage that will come along with that.
Josh Bleecher Snyder
11/20/2023, 3:09 AMzooming out from text code is pretty useful (eg: minimaps, or stuff like Makepad, or in some sense code folding)🤔 You could imagine a few useful “zoom” levels in a text editor: • all text • fold everything that is multiply indented • keep only top-level stuff, current file only • keep top-level stuff, but show all files in directory • show full file hierarchy, with each file associated with its top-of-file comment (if any) Maybe you could even edit the sufficiently “zoomed out” documents to do file renames?
guitarvydas
11/20/2023, 3:46 AMoPOKtdJ4UbTdPaZig6jg
11/20/2023, 6:01 AMyoz
11/20/2023, 11:09 PMwarning that I'm about to do a deeply uninformed yet loudly opinionated dive
based on the lightest of first impressions...guitarvydas
11/21/2023, 10:48 AMabeyer
11/22/2023, 4:51 AMguitarvydas
11/22/2023, 11:32 AMabeyer
11/22/2023, 6:18 PMguitarvydas
11/22/2023, 10:17 PMabeyer
11/22/2023, 10:25 PMmxcell
's value
and if you haven't set any properties from drawio it includes value
as an attribute, but as soon as you do it then removes the value attribute completely and wraps the cell in a parent object containing its label and properties