What are good web based node based programming environments

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What are good web based node based programming environments for implementing simple arithmetic and boolean logic

Jarno Montonen · Answer

Honestly couldn t find anything better than or and run into bugs in both already

Jarno Montonen · Answer

All the node programming solutions are purpose built and probably for a reason daaamn these are painful to use

Matthew Linkous · Answer

< Jarno Montonen> a little late but we built but no longer maintain something that might work for you You can work with tables and CSV files but can also just work with single number values

Gabriel Grinberg · Answer

< Jarno Montonen> one hard and sad conclusion I have reached while working on was that such actions are not suitable for node based programming I found that inline scripts such as simple inline JS is best for such operations

Gabriel Grinberg · Answer

< Matthew Linkous> cool project where can I read more about it and the reason you stopped PS I see you were also using BlueprintJS for the UI wink

Matthew Linkous · Answer

Excel like formulas are the gold standard for basic arithmetic from our research

Matthew Linkous · Answer

We stopped working on Flower bc we realized it lived in this uncanny valley between business users who prefer working excel and developers who prefer a real programming lang Especially because we learned how Excel PowerPivot basically serves the same need for non technical folks

Gabriel Grinberg · Answer

Thanks for sharing Sounds somewhat familiar slightly smiling face

Jarno Montonen · Answer

< Matthew Linkous> thanks for sharing I don t think this does boolean algebra though

Matthew Linkous · Answer

Can you give an example of what you re imaging Are you hoping for conditional paths

Jarno Montonen · Answer

Yeah like the conditions in these I wanted to try to implement this job billing calculator in the common no code paradigms blocks nodes and spreadsheets and compare to how my structured natural language does against them

Jarno Montonen · Answer

I must be the most biased person in the world but the test made me very confident about structured natural language for this kind of stuff Spreadsheets certainly have their strengths but Excel formulas are just painful to use Today I spent the whole day working on a more complex excel thingy and o boy did I wish I could ve just used my editor for writing the formulas

Jarno Montonen · Answer

Well tbf the example doesn t even have boolean algebra but conditionals yes

Matthew Linkous · Answer

Basically how d you do it in Flower You can use filters to create separate tables or use formulas to create new columns In this case the formula is `Wage MIN 80 Hours + MOD Hours 80 Wage 1 2` to setup pay Unlike Excel we actually support column names

Jarno Montonen · Answer

Okay interesting approach Don t think I ve seen anything like that before I was just looking for greater than node btw 80 hours a day would certainly warrant some extra pay smile

Matthew Linkous · Answer

Gonna burn the midnight oil and warp time when working at a startup lol

Jarno Montonen · Answer

and won t need an overtime pay calculator at all

Jarno Montonen · Answer

too bad you couldn t find a product market fit for flower it seems like it could be able to fix the difficulty of tracking what s happening in a more complicated spreadsheet while still benefiting from the strengths of tabular presentations

Matthew Linkous · Answer

Yeah well <https github com aspen cloud flower|it s open source> and we re executing on something much cooler now so it s all good

Daniel Sosebee · Answer

I ve been working with Paul Dancstep on a node based algebra solving environment which I ll probably write about soon but there s a demo here you can drag operators in from the sidebar wire them together then reverse dependencies within a construction to solve for one of your previously independent variables And you can visualize and manipulate it all in a complex plane on the right side of the screen <https digital abacus vercel app >

Daniel Sosebee · Answer

I d like to write more about this soon also Paul s written a bit about the project here <http digitalabacus org DigitalAbacusGames pdf>

Jarno Montonen · Answer

nice but not quite what I was looking for