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Srini K
03/22/2023, 5:16 PMI wrote a post on Nightingale that was just published today, exploring the clever data viz design of the Dark Sky app. I reference Bret Victor’s Magic Ink, specifically that Dark Sky is a context-sensitive information graphic.
Apple’s weather app incorporated some but not all of the design metaphors.
https://nightingaledvs.com/dark-sky-weather-data-viz/
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Kartik Agaram
03/22/2023, 11:20 PMThis was awesome! But I'm afraid I have some tough love.
https://merveilles.town/@akkartik/110069492107710107
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Srini K
03/23/2023, 12:28 AMhaha yeah I think they always had challenges on the business side 🤷
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Kartik Agaram
03/23/2023, 12:37 AMMy response is kinda unfair. You're writing from the perspective of the product, while I'm focusing on the user (i.e. you). Most of the time, for me, a better experience doesn't seem worthwhile if it's going to just be taken away for arbitrary reasons I have no control over. But I do see the effect that great UI had on you, even if it was short-lived.
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jhaip
03/23/2023, 6:46 PMI enjoyed reading that post! Totally missed that your wrote it
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Justin Blank
03/23/2023, 7:36 PM“Better to have loved and lost then never to have loved at all”
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Kartik Agaram
03/23/2023, 8:06 PMDepends on how abusive the relationship turns out to be!
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Justin Blank
03/23/2023, 8:51 PMThat’s really not apt.
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Kartik Agaram
03/23/2023, 9:10 PMReally, you haven't ever found Google or Facebook or Twitter or Apple to seem abusive?
I think it's reasonable to say personal relationships are different from relationships with companies. We don't make ourselves as vulnerable with companies, so it makes no sense to call anything abuse.
It also seems fertile to think of them as akin to personal relationships (hence my <3 above). But then it seems to me you do have to admit the full spectrum of emotions a relationship can engender.
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Srini K
03/23/2023, 10:05 PMyeah @Kartik Agaram FWIW I had to pay $4 or $5 for the app 🙂 but clearly wasnt’ enough revenue. People just don’t really pay for weather apps unfortunately.
I think Apple actually noticed that there were lots of free weather apps doing sketchy things from a user privacy standpoint + stuffed with ads, b/c again historically people didn’t pay for a weather app. They may have bought Dark Sky to power WeatherKit, and make it easier for other people to build weather apps. So interesting roller coaster overall
@jhaip glad you liked it! We should do another FoC Boston meetup sometime, it’s been forever