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    jamii

    2 years ago
    Show FoC: I started writing up a language I've been brooding over for the past few months - https://scattered-thoughts.net/writing/imp-sets-and-funs/. The first post is not very future-of-coding, but just wait...
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    user

    2 years ago
    The code is going to undergo heavy heavy transformation by the time its running on differential dataflow. There's no hope of preserving ordering from the original code.
  • shalabh

    shalabh

    2 years ago
  • Kartik Agaram

    Kartik Agaram

    2 years ago
    This looks like a fellow traveler: https://github.com/markdewing/next_steps_in_programming/blob/master/programming_by_transformations.md (Spot the citation to @Konrad Hinsen's work!)
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  • stevekrouse

    stevekrouse

    2 years ago
    So do we think now is the right time or are we still too early? Can we build the Star / Lisa today? Side question: isn't it crazy that we still mourn and yearn for technological visions from the 70s? Where's our creativity gone?
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    Steve Dekorte

    2 years ago
    wrt specific visions, would folks here find it helpful to have a way to collect member’s (brief) thoughts on their perspectives on FoC, and their project’s vision and implementation?
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  • Kartik Agaram

    Kartik Agaram

    2 years ago
    Creating complexity is just a natural consequence of not understanding a domain yet. It's not about techies or even people. All sophonts will do it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuhari The key is to allow backing out complexity when it becomes apparent that it's unnecessary.
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    Steve Dekorte

    2 years ago
    It feels like we need a term that effectively removes these questions while still expressing the act of creation. I like “creator”.
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  • Konrad Hinsen

    Konrad Hinsen

    2 years ago
    @Steve Dekorte Programs and apps are historical accidents. They are subelements of computing systems, but it’s only the system that matters in the end. A Spreadsheet is such a system. A system necessarily includes code and data, in some form. Focussing on programs means neglecting the data.
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    tbabb

    2 years ago
    But even if many coders revel in working with "puzzle-y" systems, they themselves might still be more productive if the system were cognitively more minimal
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